Returning to Catholicism is certainly a step toward regaining
traditional religion, but don’t count your chickens yet; the church Holmes chose just happens to be the same church Nancy Pelosi frequented
while she was Speaker of the House. You might think any Catholic Church Pelosi felt comfortable at would
be somewhat marginal, as Catholicism goes, and you’d be correct. The Church of St. Frances Xavier is a left-wing incarnation of the Catholic
Church; its members have marched in New York City’s Gay Pride parade for
years. So Holmes has left the realm of science fiction and returned to Earth; but not quite back to traditional morality yet.
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this is a true catholic church that proclaims the gospel in both word and action . it is not just some physical building where people bow and pray it is where the homeless recieve shelter the marginalized feel at home the hungry get food
you tell me whats wrong with Xavier
Agreed. The reference to "traditional morality" is code for "pray, pay, & obey."
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I like what "Grandpa Bob" had to say:
"I grew up sixty years ago in St Francis Xavier Parish in New York and remember it when the Jesuits were loyal to the Church and people were good hardworking Irish and Italian families. But did you see that congregation now? What a bunch of mutts! They're dressed for a ball game or a picnic. This is a total disgrace. Sodomites and slobs and aging hippies -- it is a disgrace. They wasted their money "restoring" that church. They should have restored the faith, not the building.
July 15, 2010 4:26 PM
http://youtu.be/iRcRYWnqsTY
"Homosexual priests do 90% of the abuse"
Nope--the facts do not support that claim.http://www.jjay.cuny.edu/4688.php
who the F is Grandpa Bob- its 2012 of NYC is a capital of the world. Xavier is at a crossroad of NYC and includes everybody like the gospel tell us Blacks asians arabs whites americans and non americans
what God sees from above we do not know - as humans there is a welcoming feeling of inclusion not exclusion. I can name a parish not far up the street where a convert preaches to a boring homogenous congregation where there is little human interaction -
Maria who is this grandpa Bob and how often does he attend mass at Xavier? Does he help out t the homeless shelter there? Oh wait maybe he helps teach english . Oh no wait wait he helps bring handicapped Catholics into the church to a newly designed area intended to make them feel more comfortable. Gosh Grandpa Bob must be a real hero and true New yorker.
Maria - NYC has a slew of diverse ciongrgationd that represent the real catholic church not some lily white homgenous version stuck in grandpa bobs head
gays have groups at
Xavier
St Joseph
Ascension
St Paul The Apostle
St Francis Assissi
Holy Trinity
Look at all the projection from the people who are playing the race card.
Without faith, there can be no charity.
It doesn't matter how much you praise your own deeds, it won't help you on judgement day.
"Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor boy prostitutes nor sodomites nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God".
1 Corinthians Chapter 6 Verses 9-10
St Peter Canisius
O God, You made the blessed confessor Peter a bulwark of virtue and learning in the defense of the Catholic faith. May his example and teaching lead the erring back to the path of salvation and strengthen the faithful in bearing witness to the truth, through Christ our Lord. Amen.
http://youtu.be/19IqU_JrFY4
This post doesn't exactly ring with "Catholics can always come home" sentiment. Why such weird hostility? Shouldn't the woman be welcomed back any way she can make it? There seem to be people out there who really dislike the diversity of a catholic Catholic Church. But obsession with one's own viewpoint to the exclusion of others is a sign of profound cowardice. I think the Church is braver and stronger than such craven jingoism.
Good for you, Katie Holmes. Welcome back. Don't worry about the angry voices. Unlike Tom's religion, these people don't call the shots.
The third message of Our Lady of Akita on October 13, 1973, the actual anniversary of the final visions and miracle of Fatima is as follows:
"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son. Each day, recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and the priests. The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord."
Mr. Casey: There may be a little confusion. Our concern is not about Ms. Holmes' ostensible wish to return to the Catholic Church as reported by the media; however, we must ask, to what is Ms. Holmes returning?
Roman Catholicism acknowleges that sodomy is a sin that cries out to heaven for vengence. Roman Catholicism acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Support for sodomy and Zen Buddhism and its practices is at variance with our beliefs as Roman Catholics. As faithful Catholics we must protest a Church which claims to be Catholic while at the same time subscribing to beliefs antithetical to Roman Catholicism.
"This post doesn't exactly ring with "Catholics can always come home" sentiment.
This is because faithful Catholics know that this St. Xavier church is not even close to being considered a 'home' in terms of christian spirituality. If anything, I sincerely hope this woman and her child will more fully appreciate a faithful parish after this experience. If the woman is not on drugs, I suspect it will be a short lived experience because exposing one's child to such unpure lifestyles would make a average mother vomit.
"it would make the average mother vomit"
nice really Christian attitude
what keeps the average " faithful catholic" mom lunch down ? white with 2.5 kids ? the obsession with xavier having a large gay population seems to suggest either hatred for another human being or deep seated homosexual tendencies . either way any enlightened Catholic would not be so judgemental
"If the woman is not on drugs, I suspect it will be a short lived experience because exposing one's child to such unpure lifestyles would make a average mother vomit."
I think it's fair to say there are plenty of things in today's Church that would make anyone vomit, starting with clergy abuse of kids. Plenty of sin and sodomy to go around without even looking at the pews. But I was stunned at the level of vitriol for Xaivier church. Didn't Jesus spend much of his time with poor sinners, undesirables,prostitutes, Samarians etc. Xavier sounds like a place He would love.
Jesus seemed to love these people. Why do so many hate them in His name?
The argument that we hate anyone is preposterous and a hackneyed one at that. Our Lord embraced the sinner. He also denounced sin in the srongest language, my friend. St. Francis Xavier embraces sin.
"One thing especially stands out in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, God is portrayed as indeed merciful beyond human reckoning. On the cross Christ could say about those who crucified Him “Father forgive them, they do not know what they are doing.” But, and what an awful but this is, this same merciful God is just. And if sinners will not repent, and that will not is not mere future tense. If sinners voluntarily, deliberately, stubbornly refuse to repent, divine retribution follows inexorably. Whatever else the Synoptics teach us, they teach us it is the same Jesus Who said, “Come to me all you who labor and are heavily burdened and I will refresh you.” Who also said, “He will say depart from me you condemned into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels.” Both are quotations from Christ; it is the same God. The difference between the merciful God Who forgives and the just God Who punishes, the difference is our own free will. We have the key to unlock the mercy of God."
Servant of God John Hardon SJ
"Why penance and reparation? Because, in Christ's words, "Unless you do penance, you shall all likewise perish".
Is it any wonder that on Pentecost Sunday, after Peter preached his sermon, and rebuked the people for their sins, and they asked him, "what must we do," his first word to the multitude was the imperative verb, "Repent!"
Is it any wonder that Our Lady of Fatima's message to a sinful world in our day, may be summarized in the same imperative, "Do penance."
Indeed, the calamities that we have so far seen in this present century: two world wars with more casualties than in all the previous wars of history, and the threat of a nuclear holocaust that hangs over us like a tornado cloud. All of this is God's warning to do penance and reparation. Why? Because God is not mocked.
You do not offend God with impunity. You do not sin without retribution. You do not ignore the will of the Almighty and expect the Almighty to ignore what you do.
What bears emphasis, however, is that this retribution is either to be paid willingly, with our penance and reparation, or will be paid unwillingly within the divine punishment.
The divine logic is simple, awfully simple, and all we have to do is learn what God is telling us. Either we do penance and reparation because we want to, or we shall suffer (against our will) the consequences of our sins in this life, and in the life to come.
But remember, this penance and reparation is to be done not only for what we have personally done wrong. It is for all the pride and lust, for all the cruelty and greed, for all the envy and laziness and gluttony of a sin-laden human family.
God is merciful and in fact as our Holy Father has told us, Jesus Christ is the Incarnation of divine mercy. But God's mercy is conditional. It is conditional on our practice of penance and reparation."
John Hardon SJ Sevant of God
"Didn't Jesus spend much of his time with poor sinners?"
Well move to NY and join St Xavier parish. Drop the kids off so that they can soak-up all that love St. Xavier parish is offering.
"God is merciful and in fact as our Holy Father has told us, Jesus Christ is the Incarnation of divine mercy. But God's mercy is conditional. It is conditional on our practice of penance and reparation."
Is Fr. Hardon the most qualified to write about this? I mean this guy advised his superiors to harbor a sexual predator.
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