"Pope Francis: Conversations with Jorge Bergoglio." The book, by Sergio Rubin and Francesca Ambrogetti, is a series of interviews originally published in 2010 under the title "El Jesuita" ("The Jesuit"). The book is currently unavailable in English. Priests and the stink of sheep: The future pope said,
"A church that limits itself to just carrying out administrative duties, caring for its tiny flock, is a church that in the long run will get sick. The pastor who isolates himself is not a true pastor of sheep, but a 'hairdresser' for sheep who spends his time putting curlers on them instead of going to look for others."
He said the situation today is the mirror opposite of the biblical parable of the shepherd who leaves his 99 sheep to find the one that is lost. "Today we have one in the pen and 99 we need to go looking for."